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How’s ya boids, Julio?

Those birds are getting big. They appear fully feathered, and resemble the parents in two aspects, the first being a little bit of yellow fluff is visible yet and the second that they won’t fly away.

Fearing a problem with the subletter, who is quite the little home botanist, Julie did a great job cleaning up a lot of bird poop-encrusted soil. The plant seems thankful and might just recover. We also endeavored to find a way to keep the young ones out of the neighboring flowerbox. With their new landlegs, they took to roaming into it–quite roughly at that during feeding. Sturdier sticks, along with the old wives’ method of rubbing strong soap on the edges of said box seem to do the trick for now.

A new suprise has appeared: bird mites. This was a bit of a shock when little critters went on the march during our little cleaning sessions. A little internet “research” has relieved our worst fears. They don’t burrow into the skin, they don’t tend to spread diseases, they can’t complete their life cycle without birds. It’s much easier to get rid of them than, say scabies or lice: get rid of the nests, they won’t be able to reproduce and die out in weeks. Meanwhile, it does seem a few have gotten in, and here at my desk right next to bird’s nest window I’ve found a couple on me while I work. The few bites I’ve gotten could just as well be mosquito bites, and Julie seems to have managed be pretty much free of any. As long as it stays like that, we’ll be just fine.

In other news, Terry has been listening to Paul Simon, and wants to know exactly what was it that me and Julio were doing that was so illegal down by the schoolyard. Below You’ll find a collection he has scoured from… somewhere online, which provides a number of different opinions as to what that song is about. Some thoughtful thinking, I think.

Myself, I have to go with the corny explanation that it is probably up to the listener to interpret. I draw this from interviews with Paul were he often says that about his songs, but also because I’ve written enough songs to understand how the creative songwriting process goes. I think that good songs always speak of some kind of truth, but songs that have all their symbolisms and metaphors worked out into a tight little system of meaning tend to be the work of amateurs.

i believe it is just “see me and julio” not “see, you, me and julio”

i always thought this was a song about a homosexual relationship, that the writer’s parents figured out about, so they send him away.

i also thought maybe it could be that the writer is white and julio isnt, and maybe they are friends, so that causes him to be sent away.

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I recieved this knowledge from a music encyclopedia, so its a bit more specific.

Two boys getting caught masturbating by a teacher.

thats the winning answer

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Actually, the winning answer seems to be from Paul Simon himself, who said he “didn’t know” what the mama saw, or what they were doing at the school yard.

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lthough I personally like the homosexuality interpretation, I think the speaker and Julio used to have sex with Rosie at the schoolyard. Paul Simon has never given any indication of being a homophobe, but he also doesn’t have much of a track record on tackling gay themes. I can’t picture him writing about that.

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He’s smoking weed. Julio is his dealer. You know, puffing the cheeba. Go by the seesaw, smoke a J.

“It’s against the law”

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Rosie the QUEEN of Corona… queen being the key word if you’re going to use the homosexual interpretation; most of you have probably heard it used as a name for a very obviously gay and often slightly feminine man. Rosie might be a flamingly gay friend or even an alternate identity of one of the boys.

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Paul Simon has said in a number of interviews that he really has no idea what “the mama saw” down by the schoolyard, that the song was just a piece of fluff that he wrote for the hell of it (he apparently liked the sound of “me and Julio”). Whether he’s being truthful here or not, who knows…

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Wow, i went to the link suggested by bakert, and was amazed at just how defensive Paul Simon seemed to the line of questioning. And fair enough, it’s the songwriters right to leave the interpretation up to the listener and not have to explain what can often be a sensitive topic…

Anyway, my interpretation is that it is a song about a sexual activity between the narrator (perhaps Paul himself) and Julio, e.g. as has been suggested, mutual masturbation, gay sex, a threesome etc.

I’m prepared to go even further and suggest that the line “and when the radical priest came to get me released” is actually a bit of a clever play on words – read “and when the radical priest came to get me release”, as in “sexual release” aka orgasm. Nice old innuendo there…

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You’re all wrong. It’s a song written about Juarez Sanchez, the teenage kid who worked with Julio Coelho in Mexico in the 60’s. Juarez was like a slave to Coelho. They abused kids in the schoolyards, and when Juarez’s parents found out about it, they tipped off the cops ie ‘started the investigation’. As for the priest, Julio had connections in the church and tried to get the boy released from ‘the house of detention’ because they had fallen in love by then. As for ‘rosie, the queen of corona’ that’s a saying in Mexican which means virginity. Juarez is saying goodbye to his virginity, ie, he has slept with Julio. Suppose maybe you have to be Mexican to get it.

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one time, at a paul simon concert, he explained the meaning. it’s actually about him and his old neighbor, julia, who he had a relationship with, and they liked to go down to the schoolyard and sit on the swings. to make the song more rhythmic, he changed her name to julio.

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I think it’s about a lot of things that seemed to be relevant to the time, but he sums them up by creating characters, and refers them to a well known story line – Romeo and Juliet.

On a basic level, the writer is Romeo, Julio is Juliet, Rosie the Queen of Corona is Rosaline, and the Radical Priest is Friar Laurence. We know he is caught doing something bad, and we know he is “on his way” but he doesn’t know where he’s going – sounds a bit like exile. Romeo is exiled for murder, but I think that is irrelevant to this song. Paul has used this story to refer to other things that were relevant to him.

Firstly, Julio is a boy’s name. That suggests that he is talking about the illegality of homosexuality, and how society would not allow the chracter to be with his lover. The cheery nature of the music makes of mockery of this – possibly shows Paul’s disgust at homophobia. Goodbye to Rosie? Well, Romeo forgets about Rosaline when he sees Juliet – the character leaves women, when he realises that he is gay. Corona is, from what I hear, an area in NYC, which draws familiarity with the modern city/world, where a woman was an appropriate partner for a man, not another man.

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This song is clearly about homosexuality. Rosie (pink) the queen of Corona (male organ) is a metaphor for the female reprodoctive organ.
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I believe “Rosie” is a third party down by the schoolyard. And they’re all doing something they shouldn’t be doing. He’s never going to see Rosie again. And the Corona part is about Corona, Queens a neighborhood in NYC. I personally imagine her a prostitue Julio and him got caught with her.
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Regarding the Lyrics, the original album lyric listing (which I still own) in fact does say: “See you, me and Julio” most listeners don’t hear the “you” because he rolls it so closely together with “See” so it comes out sounding like “Seeoo”.

And yes, it definitely is “Papa” and not Copper. (I’ve never actually heard that one debated before.)

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